83 lines
3.8 KiB
Plaintext
83 lines
3.8 KiB
Plaintext
From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 30 19:58:59 2002
|
|
Return-Path: <fork-admin@xent.com>
|
|
Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com
|
|
Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1])
|
|
by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1913016F21
|
|
for <jm@localhost>; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:57:33 +0100 (IST)
|
|
Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1]
|
|
by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0)
|
|
for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:57:33 +0100 (IST)
|
|
Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org
|
|
(8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8UHJUK09309 for <jm@jmason.org>;
|
|
Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:19:30 +0100
|
|
Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix)
|
|
with ESMTP id 63C382940EB; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:19:09 -0700 (PDT)
|
|
Delivered-To: fork@example.com
|
|
Received: from jamesr.best.vwh.net (jamesr.best.vwh.net [192.220.76.165])
|
|
by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 916262940EA for <fork@xent.com>;
|
|
Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:18:07 -0700 (PDT)
|
|
Received: (qmail 36539 invoked by uid 19621); 30 Sep 2002 17:15:59 -0000
|
|
Received: from unknown (HELO avalon) ([64.125.200.18]) (envelope-sender
|
|
<jamesr@best.com>) by 192.220.76.165 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for
|
|
<fork@xent.com>; 30 Sep 2002 17:15:59 -0000
|
|
Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the First Amendment (fwd)
|
|
From: James Rogers <jamesr@best.com>
|
|
To: fork@example.com
|
|
In-Reply-To: <3D9879E9.7020708@permafrost.net>
|
|
References: <JHEPKCEMGPKFFDHHDDKDMEJBFIAA.bill@wstoddard.com>
|
|
<3D9879E9.7020708@permafrost.net>
|
|
Content-Type: text/plain
|
|
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
|
|
X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk
|
|
Message-Id: <1033407397.13480.34.camel@avalon>
|
|
MIME-Version: 1.0
|
|
Sender: fork-admin@xent.com
|
|
Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com
|
|
X-Beenthere: fork@example.com
|
|
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11
|
|
Precedence: bulk
|
|
List-Help: <mailto:fork-request@xent.com?subject=help>
|
|
List-Post: <mailto:fork@example.com>
|
|
List-Subscribe: <http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork>, <mailto:fork-request@xent.com?subject=subscribe>
|
|
List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare <fork.xent.com>
|
|
List-Unsubscribe: <http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork>,
|
|
<mailto:fork-request@xent.com?subject=unsubscribe>
|
|
List-Archive: <http://xent.com/pipermail/fork/>
|
|
Date: 30 Sep 2002 10:36:37 -0700
|
|
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.2 required=5.0
|
|
tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,
|
|
QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,
|
|
T_URI_COUNT_0_1
|
|
version=2.50-cvs
|
|
X-Spam-Level:
|
|
|
|
On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 09:20, Owen Byrne wrote:
|
|
> In my experience, this is classic "American" behaviour, and I don't
|
|
> think its on the increase outside of the US of A.
|
|
|
|
|
|
In my experience, this protest behavior is really only an issue in
|
|
"ultra-liberal" coastal cities, which is where I normally live. It is
|
|
part of the culture and that behavior is viewed as acceptable.
|
|
|
|
For comparison, contrast this with the character of the arguably more
|
|
serious protests against Federal government abuse in the inter-mountain
|
|
West. They have a very different idea of what constitutes acceptable
|
|
protest practice. Those protests remain largely civil and polite, if
|
|
heated and aggressive, and those involve a far greater percentage of the
|
|
local population. And unlike 99% of the liberal coastal city protests
|
|
I've seen, the people protesting in the inter-mountain West are actually
|
|
facing immediate dire consequences from the activities they are
|
|
protesting and are strongly motivated to protest in a manner that gets
|
|
results. Some of their tactics, such as the practice of many businesses
|
|
and restaurants in northern Nevada to not give service to anyone known
|
|
to be in the employ of the BLM and related agencies, have been very
|
|
effective at forcing dialog. I don't recall anyone characterizing their
|
|
protests as impolite, rude, or violent, but then they have more to lose.
|
|
|
|
|
|
-James Rogers
|
|
jamesr@best.com
|
|
|
|
|