From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 30 19:58:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1913016F21 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:57:33 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:57:33 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8UHJUK09309 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:19:30 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C382940EB; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@example.com Received: from jamesr.best.vwh.net (jamesr.best.vwh.net [192.220.76.165]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 916262940EA for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 36539 invoked by uid 19621); 30 Sep 2002 17:15:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avalon) ([64.125.200.18]) (envelope-sender ) by 192.220.76.165 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Sep 2002 17:15:59 -0000 Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the First Amendment (fwd) From: James Rogers To: fork@example.com In-Reply-To: <3D9879E9.7020708@permafrost.net> References: <3D9879E9.7020708@permafrost.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Message-Id: <1033407397.13480.34.camel@avalon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@example.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 30 Sep 2002 10:36:37 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, T_URI_COUNT_0_1 version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 09:20, Owen Byrne wrote: > In my experience, this is classic "American" behaviour, and I don't > think its on the increase outside of the US of A. In my experience, this protest behavior is really only an issue in "ultra-liberal" coastal cities, which is where I normally live. It is part of the culture and that behavior is viewed as acceptable. For comparison, contrast this with the character of the arguably more serious protests against Federal government abuse in the inter-mountain West. They have a very different idea of what constitutes acceptable protest practice. Those protests remain largely civil and polite, if heated and aggressive, and those involve a far greater percentage of the local population. And unlike 99% of the liberal coastal city protests I've seen, the people protesting in the inter-mountain West are actually facing immediate dire consequences from the activities they are protesting and are strongly motivated to protest in a manner that gets results. Some of their tactics, such as the practice of many businesses and restaurants in northern Nevada to not give service to anyone known to be in the employ of the BLM and related agencies, have been very effective at forcing dialog. I don't recall anyone characterizing their protests as impolite, rude, or violent, but then they have more to lose. -James Rogers jamesr@best.com