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From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Fri Sep 13 16:51:45 2002
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From: Theo Van Dinter <felicity@kluge.net>
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To: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net
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Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Getting yourself removed from spam lists
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On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 03:21:08PM +0200, carlo@alinoe.com wrote:
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> So... it seems to me that they DO clean up
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> their lists, but only when a spam fails to
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> deliver - or can't they detect that?
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>=20
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> What do spammers do with email addresses in
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> their database that are undeliverable for a
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> few years? Do they still continue to spam
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> them?
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Well, here's my semi-coherent rant for the moment. ;)
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I have >3100 spamtraps on my machine (you can multiply that by each domain
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if you really want to). The vast majority (all but, say, 10) have never
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ever existed. Yet, spammers would semi-continuously connect, try to
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deliver mail to 40 of them, disconnect, connect again, try delivering
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to 40 more... over and over, they kept getting "User unknown" until I
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got around to making them spamtraps.
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So my evidence would suggest that it depends who you're dealing with. :)
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If your "business" is to sell address lists to people who would then spam,
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it's in your best interest to never clean your list. Therefore you can
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say "10 million email addresses" and not technically be lying, even if
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the majority of them don't work.
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If you're a spammer, you'd want to know who doesn't actually exist, but
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then again you don't really care: you probably want to relay through
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someone so it's harder to trace you, if you could you'd send to every
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email address available, you don't want to setup a valid bounce address
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because again it's easy to trace you.
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So I would say this, if you technically spam people but actually think
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you're running a legit service, you probably really do have a way of
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opting out (even though the user didn't opt in) and you probably don't
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relay, and you probably pay attention to bounces.
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Everyone else doesn't really care.
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That's my view anyway. :)
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