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From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Aug 26 21:57:50 2002
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From: "Rob Shavell" <rob@mobiusvc.com>
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To: "'Eugen Leitl'" <eugen@leitl.org>,
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"'Mike Masnick'" <mike@techdirt.com>,
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Subject: RE: sprint delivers the next big thing??
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thx for the thoughts gentlemen (yes as someone said i use terms loosely) -
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more than cool --->
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quality: snobs only care about mpixels. this is about communications. the
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general public cares about speed not quality. how is akamai doing these
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days? not to mention any other QOS businesses that come to mind.
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implementation: point about hooking to usb, wires, etc. AGREE 100%. these
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implementations are super clunky, attachable camera needs to be integrated a
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la nokia model. basically useless until better handsets are released i
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think.
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adoption: ian brought up the 'fax' problem. brilliant thing is, this is far
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more personal than faxes so can be justified more easily and marketed in
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family packs etc. but yes, the usual rules apply as MMS phones have network
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efx.
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content: who cares about content? that no one can think of 'useful' content
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is always the business persons mistake. the content is the users
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communications. its anything and everything. avg person could easily send
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half dozen pics to a dozen people a day. mainly humorous i'd guess. who
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cares if content is trivial in nature. picture speaks a thousand words.
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display: why are dig camera displays better than cell phones? does anyone
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know who makes these small displays and what the trends are around them?
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misc ramblings: i suppose you skeptical forkers would have said the same
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thing about '1 hour photo' processing. trivial, who needs it, i get better
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resultion elswhere. and yet, it had great decentralizing impact - the plant
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had to be downsized and pushed to the retail operation - the digital camera,
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and finally the integrated digital camera phone brings this cycle of
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decentralization in photography to a logical conclusion (which will put the
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photo giants to bed) and change the world in a meaningful way. also, SMS
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didn't take off because its easy, it took off because it costs less. its
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greatly ironic the carriers often trumpet the 'profitabilty' of their SMS
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traffic over others because of its ratio of cost to bandwidth. in reality,
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SMS cannibilizes the voice rev's they bought their networks to handle.
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ps: it is relatively amusing that one 'low resolution' complaint dropped
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just after Joe watched a CARTOON on his television..
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You're right. Or at least, I don't. I saw an advert for it on TV last
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night (can't miss Futurama :-) and I thought, "boy, that's dumb."
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If I wanted to share pictures with someone, I'd email them to them,
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where they could see them on a 1024x or 1600x display, instead of
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rob
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-----Original Message-----
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From: Eugen Leitl [mailto:eugen@leitl.org]
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Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 1:34 AM
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To: Rob Shavell
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Cc: fork@example.com
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Subject: Re: sprint delivers the next big thing??
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On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Rob Shavell wrote:
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> down in the tech world than mobile visual communications.. and yet no one
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> seems to give much of a damn that right now that 2 persons can take photos
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> and share them instantly across space. this is one of the biggest - and
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The word "trivial" comes to mind.
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> last - fundamental changes in human communications. will be as big as the
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> browser.
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Remote realtime streaming video is neat, but sharing pictures? You invoke
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big words rather readily.
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