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From ygingras@ygingras.net Wed Sep 4 18:59:01 2002
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From: Yannick Gingras <ygingras@ygingras.net>
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To: secprog@securityfocus.com
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Subject: Re: Secure Sofware Key
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 06:52:07 -0400
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> Software vendors have been trying since forever to prevent software piracy.
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> Remember when you had to enter a specific word from a specific page of the
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> software manual, which was printed on dark maroon paper so that it could
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> not be photocopied? Didn't work. Propritery encoding of DVD's? Didn't
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> work. Software that required the use of a registration key? Didn't work.
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> Windows XP was shipped with this supposedly revolutionary method for
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> stopping piracy, and what happened? How long was it before the code was
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> cracked? How many keygens are there for Windows XP? Is someone running a
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> pirated version of XP really going to use Windows Update to installed a
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> service pack which breaks their OS? Just because M$ didn't include the
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> change in their README? Fat chance.
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My problem is not the same as MS's one, I don't have to deal with millions of
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identical copy of the same CD with propably millions of working keys. Each
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download can be unique with a small preparation delay. The key generator is
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a problem only if multiple keys are usable. If the end users are teenagers,
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you'll face a huge wall when asking to be 100% of the time online but if we
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think of something like a health care system that keep track of patients
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personnal information, the end user will be willing to take every possible
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steps to protect the system from his own employees to use illegaly.
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I agree with all of you that mass production CDs will not be safe from piracy
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in a near futur. That can be seen as a collateral of mass market
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penetration.
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BTW thanks for all of you who provided interestiong insight. I'm playing with
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gdb's dissassembler now but I don't think it's what a typical cracker would
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use. Any hints on UNIX cracking tools ?
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Thanks.
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--
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Yannick Gingras
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Coder for OBB : Onside Brainsick Bract
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http://OpenBeatBox.org
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