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To: gbolcer@endeavors.com
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Cc: FoRK <fork@example.com>
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Subject: Re: EBusiness Webforms: cluetrain has left the station
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References: <3D95C839.8E8701FD@endeavors.com>
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From: Gary Lawrence Murphy <garym@canada.com>
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>>>>> "G" == Gregory Alan Bolcer <gbolcer@endeavors.com> writes:
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G> So, if crappy forms-based submission is the state of practice
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G> for business enablement on the Web, I can't see this whole data
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G> submission and hurry up and wait for us to get back to you
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G> business process as working all that well.
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I love this business. If a bridge falls over, the architect or the
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engineer is in court the next day, but when a /software/ bridge falls
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over, we blame the air beneath it, or the phase of the moon, or
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(more often) the people walking on it.
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"What idiots! Don't they know you're supposed to walk on the
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/balls/ of your feet, not lead with your heels? Didn't they read
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the blueprints? They were posted in the town hall. Any idiot
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would know the 0.75Hz heel cadence would pop rivets on the
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structural supports! Geez. Pedestrians are /so/ stupid."
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Ours is the /only/ industry that can hold itself 100% un-responsible
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for any and all sloth-inflicted doom, and the only industry which can
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/also/ get away with feeding this myth of infallibility unquestioned
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to the media, to investors, to students and to each other.
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"God I hate telephones. Telephones are stupid. I used a telephone
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to, like, call my broker yesterday, and y'know, just /after/ I'd
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ordered those 2000 shares of Nortel ..."
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You just gotta love a mass-delusion like that.
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Although it's like a total shock to 99.999% (5nines) of all the
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employed website designers out there, the truth is webforms /can/
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accept "U.S. of A" as a country. Incredible, but true. Web forms can
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also accept /multiple/ or even /free-form/ telephone numbers and can
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even be partitioned into manageable steps. All this can also be done
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without selling exclusive rights to your wallet to the World's
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Second-Richest Corporation (assuming Cisco is still #1) and vendor
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locking your business into their "small transaction fee" tithe.
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Of course, try and tell one of those 5-niners that and they'll get all
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defensive, black list you as a sh*t disturber and undermine your
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reputation with the boss... not that I'm speaking first-hand or
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anything ;)
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--
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Gary Lawrence Murphy - garym@teledyn.com - TeleDynamics Communications
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- blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ -
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"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
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