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From: Gregory Alan Bolcer <gbolcer@endeavors.com>
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Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the First Amendment (fwd)
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Owen Byrne wrote:
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> What a load of crap. Politics are somehow more muddy now? I'd say that
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> its considerably
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> clearer - the vast majority of people feel disenfranchised, and the
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> common practice of
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> putting protestors in boxes is done usually to hide them from TV
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> cameras, visiting dignitaries,
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> etc, further exacerbating those feelings.
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> "Unpeaceably disrupting political rallies" is now usually done by police
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> with riot gear and pepper spray.
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>
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> We had a good one here a month or so ago - a few people peaceably
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> strayed from the permit area,
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> which was nearly a mile from the site of the meeting of finance
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> ministers held here (the motorcade drove
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> by it for about 10 seconds), and were immediately gassed, beaten and
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> arrested. Not very muddied at all.
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What does that exactly have to do with the statement that
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distruption of peacable political assembly has become
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a common practice disruption tool? It's an observation
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not a judgement, comment, approval. You've focused on the
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word "muddy" to use it in a different context than the one
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I posted.
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Maybe the distinction I was trying to make was too subtle and
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I was trying to be too clever with my writing this morning.
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Let me summarize the important parts of my post for you: I
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have a premise that there is a difference between free and protected
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speech and action. I think O'Neill on his soapbox doesn't
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understand the distinction.
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All better?
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Greg
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