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From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Sep 17 11:29:48 2002
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From: "John Hall" <johnhall@evergo.net>
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To: "'Stephen D. Williams'" <sdw@lig.net>
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Subject: RE: Slaughter in the Name of God
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:18:59 -0700
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First, it was my understanding that they had the food before they
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refused to pay. I often have the goods in my possession before I settle
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the paycheck.
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Second, 'not being paid for a little food' is an awfully big deal in
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India. It isn't far from stealing the only food my children have so
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I'll have to watch them starve. The margin of survival is very, very,
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thin.
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So yes. In my particular reality distortion field 'not paying for a
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little food' in India is akin to a direct act of violence intended to
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cause suffering if not death on the victims family. That such an act
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triggers a violent response is, IMHO, hardly surprising.
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In other words, as far as I could tell the people on the train fired the
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first shot.
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With all of that said I still don't know if this happened or not. Nor
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do I know for sure that the margin of survival for those Muslim vendors
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was that thin.
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Stephen D. Williams [mailto:swilliams@hpti.com]
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> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 11:54 AM
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> To: johnhall@evergo.net
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> Cc: fork@example.com; lea@lig.net
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> Subject: Re: Slaughter in the Name of God
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>
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> Wow! It seems you are evaluating this with a large reality distortion
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> field.
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>
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> If the activists on the train refused to pay for food, then the
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vendors
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> shouldn't give it to them. And the local police force should be
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> arresting them. Etc.
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>
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> You have to be operating from a particularly primitive point of view,
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> which obviously was in operation with the participants here, to think
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> that religious differences or not being paid for a little food (or
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> taunting!) was even a remote justification for burning a train full of
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> people alive.
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> sdw
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> John Hall wrote:
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> > What I understood was that the activists on the train refused to pay
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for
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> > the food and other items they acquired from the Muslim vendors --
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then
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> > taunted them.
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> >
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> > That may not be true, but it would put things in a more interesting
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> > light. Taking food from a small vendor in India and not paying them
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is
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> > trying to starve them.
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> >
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> > It sounded consistent with the ideas and purpose of the train full
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of
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> > activists.
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> >
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> > I'm rarely an apologist for Muslims anywhere. Yet I find my
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sympathies
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> > with the Muslims in this case, even after they burned the train.
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >>From: fork-admin@xent.com [mailto:fork-admin@xent.com] On Behalf Of
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> >>Stephen D. Williams
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> >
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> >
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> >>The pity of it is that some
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> >>Muslims were ready to give it to them. Their murderous attack on the
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> >>train-load of VHP activists at Godhra (with its awful, atavistic
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> > echoes
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> >
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> >>of the killings of Hindus and Muslims by the train-load during the
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> >>partition riots of 1947) played right into the Hindu extremists'
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> > hands.
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> sdw
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> --
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> swilliams@hpti.com http://www.hpti.com
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> Stephen D. Williams, Senior Technical Director
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