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From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Aug 26 15:32:06 2002
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<fork@xent.com>; Sat, 24 Aug 2002 11:34:12 -0400 (EDT)
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From: Lucas Gonze <lgonze@panix.com>
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Cc: FoRK <fork@example.com>
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Subject: Re: The case for spam
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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 11:26:34 -0400 (EDT)
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tests=IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,MISSING_HEADERS,
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SPAM_PHRASE_13_21,USER_AGENT_PINE
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version=2.40-cvs
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X-Spam-Level:
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Russell Turpin wrote:
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> On the receiving side,
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> my email client distinguishes between messages
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> that are read, and messages that are not. I like
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> to mark or save messages that are particularly
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> interresting or important to me. And even if I
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> make a point to delete "suspicious material"
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> immediately upon reading it, even THAT might
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> leave an interesting kind of trace on my machine.
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You choose to have your email client do that. You don't have to. Short
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of Palladium, you can do whatever you want with bytes you hold, including
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reading messages and erasing the traces. I'll buy a chocolate sundae for
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anyone who can show otherwise.
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An attacker might be able to verify that you *have* read a message (e.g.
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by seeing that you saved and edited a copy) but not that you *haven't*.
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If your email client was compromised you could put a packet sniffer on the
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line before downloading mail. If an attacker installed a packet sniffer
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sniffer, you could run it in a spoofing VM.
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The only exception to the rule that your machine belongs to you is --
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maybe -- Palladium.
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- Lucas
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http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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