From jm@jmason.org Wed Sep 18 12:36:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@example.com Received: by example.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 2B27716F18; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:36:24 +0100 (IST) Received: from example.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28435F7B1; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:36:24 +0100 (IST) To: "Fox" Cc: "Justin Mason" , razor-users@example.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Razor-users] HTML Table - Razor Stats using -lm 4 In-Reply-To: Message from "Fox" of "Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:01:40 EDT." <003d01c25e95$ccf547c0$7c640f0a@mfc.corp.mckee.com> From: yyyy@example.com (Justin Mason) X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: 0A48 2D8B 0B52 A87D 0E8A 6ADD 4137 1B50 6E58 EF0A X-Habeas-Swe-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-Swe-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-Swe-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-Swe-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-Swe-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-Swe-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-Swe-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-Swe-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-Swe-9: mark in spam to . Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:36:19 +0100 Sender: yyyy@example.com Message-Id: <20020918113624.2B27716F18@example.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.4 required=7.0 tests=AWL,HABEAS_SWE,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: "Fox" said: > Before or after I whitelisted all the legit mailing lists that Razor is > tagging? I had one false positive in the last four days. Razor tagged some > guys person-to-person message because he used an ostrich-in-your-face jpeg > that is probably pretty popular on the net, and -lm 4 means any single > attachment in a message that is razored, razors the whole message, if I > understand it correctly. Razor folks: is -lm documented anywhere? BTW, I notice all my *.conf files in ~/.razor use "lm = 4" by default anyway. > No, I am not keeping official tally of false positives. I need to write a > html interface to do it, and then it would be easy. I imagine you want > false positive rate per filter. I will work on it tomorrow, and maybe in a > week I will have some stats for false positives. Yeah, that'd be cool -- much appreciated! comparing text classifiers like spam filters, without tracking FPs, is not good. After all, "cat > /dev/null" gets a 100% hit rate, but without the FP rate figure of, let's say 90%, you'd never know it was a bad thing to do ;) --j.