From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 30 17:57:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9BC16F76 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:54:12 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:54:12 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8UGIDK06989 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:18:14 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0892940DE; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@example.com Received: from sunserver.permafrost.net (u172n16.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.172.16]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F80A29409E for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.123.179] (helo=permafrost.net) by sunserver.permafrost.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17w35x-000884-00; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:08:29 -0300 Message-Id: <3D9879E9.7020708@permafrost.net> From: Owen Byrne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Stoddard Cc: "Fork@Xent.Com" Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the First Amendment (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@example.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:20:57 -0300 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,PENIS_ENLARGE, REFERENCES,T_QUOTE_TWICE_2,T_URI_COUNT_0_1,USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: Bill Stoddard wrote: >>GAB> The problem is that politics have gotten so muddied >>GAB> nowadays, that shouting down and unpeaceably disrupting >>GAB> political rallies that you don't agree with has become >>GAB> common practice. The courts have constantly ruled >>GAB> that there are some restrictions on the first amendment. >>GAB> They teach you that your very first year of law school. >> >>I'll agree with Owen on this one. Muddied my ass. How hard is it to >>chose between a Republocrat or a Demipublican? Not very. Shouting >>down has grown to become the answer because the government, over a >>span of years, and with the help of the Courts -has- limited the >>rights we have as citizens under the First Amendment. >> >> > >Wishful thinking. People are just bigger dickheads now. Culture is changing >and it is becoming acceptable to get in peoples face and shout them down >when you disagree with them. The people that do this are NOT >disenfranchised. They >get their rocks off on being disagreeable assholes. The act of protesting is >more important than the actual issue being protested for most of these >people. > > In my experience, this is classic "American" behaviour, and I don't think its on the increase outside of the US of A. I am willing to accept the premise that Americans are bigger dickheads then they used to be. Owen