From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 30 17:57:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5A016F78 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:54:15 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:54:15 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8UGmEK08081 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:48:14 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBD12940E1; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@example.com Received: from sunserver.permafrost.net (u172n16.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.172.16]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6233229409E for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.123.179] (helo=permafrost.net) by sunserver.permafrost.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17w3ZK-0008BL-00; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:38:50 -0300 Message-Id: <3D988106.90000@permafrost.net> From: Owen Byrne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitbitch@magnesium.net Cc: Fork@xent.com Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the First Amendment (fwd) References: <3D9879E9.7020708@permafrost.net> <11958948363.20020930122228@magnesium.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@example.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:51:18 -0300 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,PENIS_ENLARGE, REFERENCES,T_QUOTE_TWICE_2,T_URI_COUNT_0_1,USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: bitbitch@magnesium.net wrote: >>>Wishful thinking. People are just bigger dickheads now. Culture is changing >>>and it is becoming acceptable to get in peoples face and shout them down >>>when you disagree with them. The people that do this are NOT >>>disenfranchised. They >>>get their rocks off on being disagreeable assholes. The act of protesting is >>>more important than the actual issue being protested for most of these >>>people. >>> >>> >>> >>> >OB> In my experience, this is classic "American" behaviour, and I don't >OB> think its on the increase outside of the US of A. >OB> I am willing to accept the premise that Americans are bigger dickheads >OB> then they used to be. > >*sighs* > >Right. Because Americans are the only people capable of being >assholes. Shit. History keeps fucking up when they keep mentioning >all the historical examples of dickhead-ness that have proceeded the >US. > >After all, we're the only country who gets unruly when it comes to >issues. Thats why its always just the Americans at those crazy WTO >meetings... Right, Owen? > > > > > A flippant remark that I will probably regret - sure there's assholes everywhere. I just remember a lunch in Spain with a semi-famous American - I think we had about 10 nationalities at the table, and he managed to insult each of them within 15 minutes. A historical perspective makes me think that empires - Roman, British, Russian, American, whatever - produce a larger proportion of assholes than subject nations (and are more likely to have them in positions of authority). Owen