From fork-admin@xent.com Fri Sep 6 11:41:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB4416F71 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:39:38 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 06 Sep 2002 11:39:38 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g868YnW26014 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:34:51 +0100 Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA20104 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 04:43:26 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E666C2940C2; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@example.com Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06A229409F for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h00e098788e1f.ne.client2.attbi.com ([24.61.143.15]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020906034209.EOBI13899.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@h00e098788e1f.ne.client2.attbi.com>; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 03:42:09 +0000 From: bitbitch@magnesium.net X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52f) Educational Reply-To: bitbitch@magnesium.net X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: <155207191859.20020905234116@magnesium.net> To: "Adam L. Beberg" Cc: fork@example.com Subject: Re[2]: Selling Wedded Bliss (was Re: Ouch...) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@example.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:41:16 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.2 required=7.0 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST, NO_REAL_NAME,RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_THEBAT version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: Hello Adam, Thursday, September 05, 2002, 11:33:18 PM, you wrote: ALB> So, you're saying that product bundling works? Good point. Sometimes I wish I was still in CA. You deserve a good beating every so often... (anyone else want to do the honors?) ALB> And how is this any different from "normal" marriage exactly? Other then ALB> that the woman not only gets a man, but one in a country where both she and ALB> her offspring will have actual opportunities? Oh and the lack of ALB> "de-feminized, over-sized, self-centered, mercenary-minded" choices? Mmkay. For the nth time Adam, we don't live in the land of Adam-fantasy. Women actually are allowed to do things productive, independent and entirely free of their male counterparts. They aren't forced to cook and clean and merely be sexual vessels. Sometimes, and this will come as a shock to you, no doubt, men and women even find -love- (which is the crucial distinction between this system) and they marry one another for the satisfaction of being together. I know, far-fetched and idealistically crazy as it is, but such things do happen. I can guarantee you, if my mother was approached by my father, and 25 years ago, he commented on her cleaning ability as a motivator for marrying her, we would not be having this conversation now. If guys still have silly antequated ideas about 'women's role' then their opportunities for finding women _will_ be scarce. Again, these situations are great, provided everyone is aware that the relationship is a contractual one -- he wants a maid, a dog and a prostitute he doesn't have to pay, and she wants a country that isn't impoverished and teeming with AIDS. A contract, versus a true love-interest marriage. Egh. I really need to stop analyzing your posts to this extent. I blame law school and my cat. -BB ALB> - Adam L. "Duncan" Beberg ALB> http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/ ALB> beberg@mithral.com -- Best regards, bitbitch mailto:bitbitch@magnesium.net