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On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Mr. FoRK wrote:

> > 6.  Hardware is getting so fast that I'm not sure if the performance
> > difference between Java and C/C++ are relevant any more.
>
> When out-of-the-box parsing & transform of XML in java is 25x slower than
> C++ on the same hardware then it does matter.

Yea, and that on top of the 100x of all the parsing engines over just
bigendian'ing it and passing the data (5x+++) in the raw. Then it REALLY
matters.

- Adam L. "Duncan" Beberg
  http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/
  beberg@mithral.com