From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Fri Sep 13 16:51:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE8A16F03 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 16:51:47 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 13 Sep 2002 16:51:47 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8DE7PC21522 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:07:25 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17pr4E-0005ym-00; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 07:05:06 -0700 Received: from betty.magenta-netlogic.com ([193.37.229.181] helo=mail.magenta-netlogic.com) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17pr3S-0001PJ-00 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 07:04:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.magenta-netlogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B886BFA9E; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:04:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from greece.local.net (greece.local.net [::ffff:192.168.1.31]) by mail.magenta-netlogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A719BFA9A; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:04:12 +0100 (BST) Received: by greece.local.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:04:11 +0100 Message-Id: <87A8DADECEE0D411A5500050046B13A048D792@greece.local.net> From: Tony Hoyle To: "'carlo@alinoe.com'" , spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Getting yourself removed from spam lists MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS new-20020517 X-Razor-Id: 72f4879d997b64bc62636a2e2a86360b74ef5fe4 Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:04:11 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:04:11 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=7.0 tests=AWL,EXCHANGE_SERVER,FORGED_RCVD_TRAIL,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08 version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: > -----Original Message----- > From: carlo@alinoe.com [mailto:carlo@alinoe.com] > Sent: 13 September 2002 14:21 > To: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net > Subject: [SAtalk] Getting yourself removed from spam lists > > I get the feeling that the spammers never > remove emails from their lists. Correct... > On the other hand, that doesn't make sense: > wouldn't they get worried about their millions > of spams being wasted? Don't they WANT *some* > prove that they indeed *reach* people somehow? No, they only have to prove that they send several million emails to 'potential clients' to get their money. I don't think they even care much about bounces. They're con-artists, why should they care about proving they actually reached people? > So... it seems to me that they DO clean up > their lists, but only when a spam fails to > deliver - or can't they detect that? Most of the time the bounce goes to some poor soul who has nothing to do with the spammer. > What do spammers do with email addresses in > their database that are undeliverable for a > few years? Do they still continue to spam > them? Yes. Tony ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk