From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Thu Aug 29 17:13:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7494743F99 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:13:52 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7TG6VZ19509 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:06:32 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17kRlD-0003sE-00; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:03:07 -0700 Received: from [212.2.188.179] (helo=mandark.labs.netnoteinc.com) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17kRl0-0005Kt-00 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:02:55 -0700 Received: from phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com [192.168.2.14]) by mandark.labs.netnoteinc.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7TG2l502639; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:02:47 +0100 Received: by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 9E3C643F99; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993FA33D8F; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:00:17 +0100 (IST) To: Bart Schaefer Cc: Spamassassin-Talk Subject: Re: [SAtalk] O.T. Habeus -- Why? In-Reply-To: Message from Bart Schaefer of "Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:32:08 PDT." From: yyyy@example.com (Justin Mason) X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: 0A48 2D8B 0B52 A87D 0E8A 6ADD 4137 1B50 6E58 EF0A X-Habeas-Swe-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-Swe-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-Swe-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-Swe-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-Swe-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-Swe-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-Swe-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-Swe-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-Swe-9: mark in spam to . Message-Id: <20020829160017.9E3C643F99@phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com> Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:00:12 +0100 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:00:12 +0100 X-Pyzor: Reported 0 times. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-27.6 required=7.0 tests=HABEAS_SWE,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 version=2.40-cvs X-Spam-Level: Bart Schaefer said: > This is off the topic of the rest of this discussion, but amavisd (in all > its incarnations) and MIMEDefang and several other MTA plugins all reject > at SMTP time messages that scores higher than some threshold (often 10). argh, they do not, do they? the FPs must be just gigantic :( > If some new release were to start scoring all spam no higher than 5.1, > there'd better be _zero_ FPs, because all those filters would drop their > thresholds to 5. Well, my point is more that we should aim our rescoring algorithm so that a spam hits 5.0. Any higher does us no good, as it means an FP is a lot harder to recover from, using compensation rules. Spams *will* hit higher than that -- that's just the way the scoring works. but for our code to be effective, and spread the range of scores correctly, we just have to optimise to hit 1 threshold. --j. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk