From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Thu Aug 29 11:07:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115D644161 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 06:05:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:05:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7SNgEZ15659 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:42:14 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17kCOu-0002mF-00; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:39:04 -0700 Received: from adsl-216-103-211-240.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net ([216.103.211.240] helo=proton.pathname.com) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17kCOD-0000uN-00 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:38:21 -0700 Received: from quinlan by proton.pathname.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17kCOB-0008Rl-00; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:38:19 -0700 To: Matthew Cline Cc: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [SAtalk] O.T. Habeus -- Why? References: <829DCAD0-BAC5-11D6-AD60-003065C182B0@radparker.com> <1030567825.3271.TMDA@omega.paradigm-omega.net> <200208281548.21264.matt@nightrealms.com> From: Daniel Quinlan In-Reply-To: Matthew Cline's message of "Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:48:21 -0700" Message-Id: Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: 28 Aug 2002 16:38:19 -0700 Date: 28 Aug 2002 16:38:19 -0700 X-Pyzor: Reported 0 times. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.1 required=7.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_GNUS_XM version=2.40-cvs X-Spam-Level: Matthew Cline writes: > There must be *some* way of tracking a spammer down, since they are > planning on making money from the spam. What a court would consider > evidence of being the spammer is another question. Haha!!! Just a few notes: - It will be difficult to find, prosecute, and win money from someone in various non-friendly countries where spam originates (China is a good example) even if they do officially "respect" copyright law. - Law suits take time. Between now and conclusion of the first court case, we could have years of spam in our mail boxes! - Contact information can change: phone numbers, PO boxes, stolen cell phones, temporary email addresses, etc. - Spammers do not always remember to include contact information! I don't understand it either, but nobody said they were bright. Also, some spam is non-commercial or sent by a third-party (for example, "pump and dump" stock scams), so contact information is not strictly required for the spammer to get their way. Dan ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing real-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! http://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk