From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Thu Aug 29 11:07:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00134415E for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 06:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:05:37 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7SN6FZ14435 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:06:15 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17kBs1-0003yD-00; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:05:05 -0700 Received: from moonbase.zanshin.com ([167.160.213.139]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Cipher TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17kBqz-0003Vv-00 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:04:01 -0700 Received: from aztec.zanshin.com (IDENT:schaefer@aztec.zanshin.com [167.160.213.132]) by moonbase.zanshin.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g7SN40J32497 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:04:00 -0700 From: Bart Schaefer To: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [SAtalk] O.T. Habeus -- Why? In-Reply-To: <200208281548.21264.matt@nightrealms.com> Message-Id: Mail-Followup-To: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:04:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Pyzor: Reported 0 times. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.2 required=7.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.40-cvs X-Spam-Level: On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Matthew Cline wrote: > There must be *some* way of tracking a spammer down, since they are > planning on making money from the spam. Many spammers make money not from response to the spam, but from selling the service of spamming on behalf of someone else. You might track down whoever paid for the mailing, but tracking down the actual sender might be more difficult, and even if they manage to recover damages from the buyer they haven't stopped the spammer, so the benefit is strictly to Habeas, not to the recipients of the spam. That's the main problem I have with the whole scenario: My pain, Habeas's gain, and those most likely to be held liable are those least likely to be the really serious abusers. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing real-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! http://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk