From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Wed Oct 2 11:43:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E69D16F16 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:43:33 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 02 Oct 2002 11:43:33 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (ns2.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g927nWK31439 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:49:34 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g927j2f22429; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:45:02 +0200 Received: from urgent.rug.ac.be (urgent.rug.ac.be [157.193.88.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with SMTP id g927i8f17614 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:44:08 +0200 Received: (qmail 8898 invoked by uid 505); 2 Oct 2002 07:44:15 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Oct 2002 07:44:15 -0000 From: Thomas Vander Stichele To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: use new apt to do null to RH8 upgrade? In-Reply-To: <20021001.558.00260600@www.dudex.net> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:44:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:44:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: > Matthias Saou (matthias@egwn.net) wrote*: > >As Red Hat does, I really don't recommend trying to upgrade between betas > >or from a beta to a final release either. Simply backup your /home, /etc > >(and /root and/or /usr/local/ if needed) then reinstall cleanly, it'll > >probably save a few hassles and you'll get the cleanest possible system ;-) > > I think this is probably the best way, because I think (maybe) with upgrading you > do not always automatically get the latest feature enabled in some config file > because RH would rather take it easy and not update that config file (you get a > rpmnew instead of rpmsaved file) so they get less calls to support that way. If you dislike Red Hat, why use it ? This was a really bad argument against using Red Hat that makes no sense at all. I for one am GLAD that they a) don't overwrite your config files on a whim (be GLAD they don't do some sort of autodetection and changing crap) b) tell you on rpm upgrade what config files you should look at because formats have changed. Red Hat is not "taking it easy" on this, it's putting control in the hands of you, the maintainer of the machine. Don't be lazy. > Anyway, I have tons of media files in /home/* probably 5 to 10 gigs at least, my > laptop's CDROM takes 700MB at a time (obviously) and compressing media files is > dumb because they are already compressed. Dumb question: how to backup huge data? > Network backup to another box? I do not have a box with a tape drive, but maybe box > with a large HD with much free space could take the backup (oops, I do not have a > space computer with a large HD with much free space). You don't need to backup /home if you are careful enough. You did put /home on a separate partition, no ? Just install rh80 and tell it to use the same partition as /home and tell it to NOT format it, but keep the data as is. If you didn't put /home on a separate partition, then you really do need to make backups. Use an nfs or smb mount from another machine to backup and rsync straight to the mount, or if that's not possible, rsync over ssh. It's the best way to make backups. > These media files are backed up - ON THE CD'S THEY CAME FROM! It's the other way around - your media files are backups of the CD's they came from ;) Good luck, Thomas -- The Dave/Dina Project : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/ <-*- -*-> You know the shape my breath will take before I let it out <-*- thomas@apestaart.org -*-> URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list