From exmh-users-admin@redhat.com Mon Sep 23 12:06:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84C116F03 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:06:33 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:06:34 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.example.com (listman.example.com [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8N5PbC02476 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 06:25:37 +0100 Received: from listman.example.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9DE3EA67; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 01:26:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-users@listman.example.com Received: from int-mx1.corp.example.com (int-mx1.corp.example.com [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EAC3EDF3 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 01:21:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.example.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8N5Luc21797 for exmh-users@listman.redhat.com; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 01:21:56 -0400 Received: from mx1.example.com (mx1.example.com [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8N5Luh21793 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 01:21:56 -0400 Received: from blackcomb.panasas.com (gw2.panasas.com [65.194.124.178]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8N54Hi24435 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 01:04:17 -0400 Received: from medlicott.panasas.com (IDENT:welch@medlicott.panasas.com [172.17.132.188]) by blackcomb.panasas.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA11218 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 01:21:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200209230521.BAA11218@blackcomb.panasas.com> To: exmh-users@example.com Subject: Re: bad focus/click behaviours In-Reply-To: <20020915202900.F294C5D04@ptavv.es.net> References: <20020915202900.F294C5D04@ptavv.es.net> Comments: In-reply-to "Kevin Oberman" message dated "Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:28:59 -0700." From: Brent Welch X-Url: http://www.panasas.com/ X-Face: "HxE|?EnC9fVMV8f70H83&{fgLE.|FZ^$>@Q(yb#N,Eh~N]e&]=>r5~UnRml1:4EglY{9B+ :'wJq$@c_C!l8@<$t,{YUr4K,QJGHSvS~U]H`<+L*x?eGzSk>XH\W:AK\j?@?c1o List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:21:49 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,REFERENCES,X_LOOP version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: >>>"Kevin Oberman" said: > It did for me, but I am not willing to say it is not a tcl/tk issue as > other apps seemed to work OK for cut and paste and Tk does its > clipboard stuff a bit differently than most toolkits. So I'm not > about to place blame. Just reporting my experience. One more salvo on X and cut/paste. X specifies at least two *mechanisms* for cut/paste, but as usual mandates no *policy*. Windows and Macintosh have a slightly different mechanism and one uniform policy. I'm quite sure that Tk implements all PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD selections accurately. The PRIMARY selection is the one that is tied to the visible selection on your X display. The CLIPBOARD selection is the one with the explicit Copy step, and is the same as what you have on Windows and Macintosh. However, exmh throws in support for the cutbuffer mechanism, which is another archaic mechanism supported at one point (perhaps still today) by versions of emacs. Exmh has a policy that tries to unify all these mechanisms under one umbrella, and by all reports it is not that great. I would encourage folks to play with those 10 lines of code in Text_Selection and report what works well for them. We may come up with 8 lines that work for everyone, or perhaps introduce yet another setting that lets folks choose between a few useful models. Of course, that's an admission of policy failure, but I'm willing to do that. -- Brent Welch Software Architect, Panasas Inc Pioneering the World's Most Scalable and Agile Storage Network www.panasas.com welch@panasas.com _______________________________________________ Exmh-users mailing list Exmh-users@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users