From fork-admin@xent.com Fri Oct 4 11:04:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2165516F21 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:02:37 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:02:37 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g943TNK01286 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 04:29:24 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219F8294195; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@example.com Received: from homer.perfectpresence.com (unknown [209.123.207.194]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7CD294192 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adsl-17-226-227.jax.bellsouth.net ([68.17.226.227] helo=regina) by homer.perfectpresence.com with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 17xJ8v-0006Ml-00; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 23:28:46 -0400 From: "Geege Schuman" To: "Stephen D. Williams" , Subject: RE: Living Love - Another legacy of the 60's Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3D9CB788.6050602@lig.net> Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Antiabuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-Antiabuse: Primary Hostname - homer.perfectpresence.com X-Antiabuse: Original Domain - xent.com X-Antiabuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-Antiabuse: Sender Address Domain - barrera.org Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@example.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 23:24:15 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,T_MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE, T_NONSENSE_FROM_00_10,T_ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,T_OUTLOOK_REPLY version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: draw the pain "Ken never wrote about this method, but he often demonstrated it in workshops. Let us say you have a physical pain somewhere in your body. You draw the pain in the air with your finger, about 30 cm (1 foot) high. Take about 60 seconds to trace around the perimeter of the pain, carefully listening to the pain to find the precise boundary between where it hurts and where it does not. Repeat. You will find that after about 10 minutes of this the pain will shift, shrink or disappear. A variant of this is to imagine making a 3D model the pain in coloured clay." Works! There's this coworker - a real pain in my ass! I used my middle finger to trace his outline for about 60 seconds. I listened to him, found the boundary, and repeated the motion. He left my office! -----Original Message----- From: fork-admin@xent.com [mailto:fork-admin@xent.com]On Behalf Of Stephen D. Williams Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:33 PM To: fork@example.com Subject: Living Love - Another legacy of the 60's Normally, I disdain any kind of mysticism, even when it is associated with fairly good ideas. Just a big turnoff. A good example would be the difference between Yoga/TM and the more scientifically pure, but related, relaxation techniques including "betagenics", hypnosis/auto-hypnosis, etc. (This was one of the many topics I obsessively absorbed as a teenager.) Or Tai Chi etc. vs. Tai Bo / G-Force Dyno-Staff. I have to say however that, having found this while looking for something completely unrelated, it has some cute truisms. I particularly like their addiction to non-addiction. Additionally, the Mindprod treehugger site has some interesting quotes, etc. To my internal ear, nearly all of these 60's based new-age vernacular seem to assume that you are a simple child (of the 60's?) who needs some religion-like couching of ideas to relate and internalize. Very irritating, but taken in small doses it's interesting to compare and contrast with our (my) modern mental models. I found that a few of the principles could be used to explain and justify US/UN foreign policy and actions. http://mindprod.com/methods.html http://members.aol.com/inossence/Kenkey.html http://www.mindprod.com/ (Apologies for the embedded HTML.) We create the world we live in. A loving person lives in a loving world, A hostile person lives in a hostile world. Everyone you meet is your mirror. You make yourself and others suffer just as much when you take offence as when you give offence. To be upset over what you don't have is to waste what you do have. The past is dead, The future is imaginary, Happiness can only be in the Eternal Now Moment How soon will you realize that the only thing you don't have is the direct experience that there's nothing you need that you don't have. Love a person because he or she is there. This is the only reason. Happiness happens when your consciousness is not dominated by addictions and demands~ and you experience life as a parade of preferences. The purpose of our lives is to be free of all addictive traps, and thus become one with the ocean of Living Love. sdw -- sdw@lig.net http://sdw.st Stephen D. Williams 43392 Wayside Cir,Ashburn,VA 20147-4622 703-724-0118W 703-995-0407Fax Dec2001