From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Oct 1 10:41:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AAF16F74 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:39:27 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 01 Oct 2002 10:39:27 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8ULkEK17256 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:46:14 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86662940FE; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@example.com Received: from Boron.MeepZor.Com (i.meepzor.com [204.146.167.214]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9499E29409E for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sashimi (dmz-firewall [206.199.198.4]) by Boron.MeepZor.Com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8ULjL205222 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:45:21 -0400 From: "Bill Stoddard" To: "Fork@Xent.Com" Subject: RE: Re[4]: A moment of silence for the First Amendment (fwd) Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <19164789201.20020930135949@magnesium.net> Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@example.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:46:11 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL,T_MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,T_QUOTE_TWICE_1 version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: > MF> I don't think free speech is a license to speak directly at > and be in the > MF> physical presence of any particular individual of your > choosing - especially > MF> when that individual is busy doing something else and isn't > interested. Yep. I agree 100% > > Sure. And that goes back to my second argument -- Cohen. THey can > walk away. NObody compells them to stand there, I'll agree fully. > But we still have a Constitutional right to speak out against > policies, actions and grievances. > > Again. If you want it another way, lets change the Constitution. Huh? Are you saying that whoever has the loudest voice gets to be heard? Shouting down a public speaker could be considered a form of censorship. If shouting down public speakers is 'protected' it is only a matter of time before the people doing the shouting have their tactic used against them -every single time they open their mouth-. The tactic is stupid and non-productive and if generally used, will only result in chaos. The tactic is just stupid ego-bation at best, unless the goal is to generate chaos. And humans whose goals and actions in life are to create chaos in society should be locked up (provided you can accurately identify them, which is not really possible anyway, but hey, this is my rant :-). IMHO. Bill