From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 30 13:52:51 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34E016F81 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:48:56 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:48:56 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8SLeEg10229 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:40:14 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B50A2940B3; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@example.com Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (mail-out2.apple.com [17.254.0.51]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB3C2940AC for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate2.apple.com (A17-129-100-225.apple.com [17.129.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g8SLam921564 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scv3.apple.com (scv3.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:36:48 -0700 Received: from whump.com (to0202a-dhcp24.apple.com [17.212.22.152]) by scv3.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g8SLal312161; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: EBusiness Webforms: cluetrain has left the station Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v546) Cc: gbolcer@endeavors.com, FoRK To: Gary Lawrence Murphy From: Bill Humphries In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <774F0112-D32A-11D6-8BB1-003065F62CD6@whump.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.546) Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@example.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:37:19 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,T_URI_COUNT_1_2, USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: On Saturday, September 28, 2002, at 12:54 PM, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > Although it's like a total shock to 99.999% (5nines) of all the > employed website designers out there, the truth is webforms /can/ > accept "U.S. of A" as a country. Incredible, but true. Web forms can > also accept /multiple/ or even /free-form/ telephone numbers and can > even be partitioned into manageable steps. All this can also be done > without selling exclusive rights to your wallet to the World's > Second-Richest Corporation (assuming Cisco is still #1) and vendor > locking your business into their "small transaction fee" tithe. Yes, but this is what normally happened: Engineer: we can put an input validator/parser on the backend to do that. Designer: there's a JavaScript library that can do some of the pre-validation. Creative Director: I want it in blue, with a zooming logo. Engineer: can we get to that later, we need to meet functional specs. Creative Director: You *don't* understand. *I* want it in blue. Creative Director: Oh, and the site launches this Friday because I sent out a press release about our new strategic partnership with HypeCorp. Designer: fine, we'll just put a list of countries in a drop down. Engineer: and we can validate against that list. Creative Director: I don't give a shit. As long as it's in blue. And has a link to my press release. ---- Bill Humphries http://www.whump.com/moreLikeThis/