From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Sep 24 10:49:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AB216F03 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:49:25 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:49:25 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8O1mWC15770 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 02:48:32 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D6F29421F; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@example.com Received: from crank.slack.net (slack.net [166.84.151.181]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F33C29409A for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by crank.slack.net (Postfix, from userid 596) id C459C3ECBD; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 21:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crank.slack.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1A53EC9F; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 21:51:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom To: Gordon Mohr Cc: fork@example.com Subject: Re: How about subsidizing SSL access to Google? In-Reply-To: <0b3901c2635c$ab557240$640a000a@golden> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@example.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 21:51:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Gordon Mohr wrote: --] --]The best we can hope is that technological cleverness, by raising the --]costs of oppression or by provoking intolerable oppression, brings --]social liberalization sooner rather than later. In a very real sense we are still playing the "stone hurst man, man wears hide, stone dont hurt no more so now we use arrows, arrows go thru hide dang lets try this chain mail stuff, arrows dont go thru chain mail so now we try crafting long spears with chain ripping heads, hey there buddy try that against my plate mail, well F you and the horse you plated try doging a bullets, holy shit where is my kevlar, does you kevlar stop nukes..." game. In this mad mad mad mad james burkian cum chucky darwin world there is no rest for either the wicked or the nonwicked, there is just the ramp up to the Brand New Jimmiez. the trick I think should all be learning is not so much looking for the THE KILLER APP but instead to look for the "really cool app that mutates to meet changes" Bascialy give china no choise but to shoot its own head off to stop the music. bang bang ... have a nice day. -tom