From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Sep 17 23:29:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC1216F03 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:29:44 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:29:44 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8HIibC22560 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 19:44:37 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08382940EF; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@example.com Received: from jamesr.best.vwh.net (jamesr.best.vwh.net [192.220.76.165]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DEC029409F for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31352 invoked by uid 19621); 17 Sep 2002 18:42:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avalon) ([64.125.200.18]) (envelope-sender ) by 192.220.76.165 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Sep 2002 18:42:41 -0000 Subject: Re: Slaughter in the Name of God From: James Rogers To: fork@example.com In-Reply-To: References: <20020917165028.4F4EA16F03@example.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Message-Id: <1032289276.2646.35.camel@avalon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@example.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 17 Sep 2002 12:01:16 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.4 required=7.0 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 11:16, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > >>>>> "J" == Justin Mason writes: > > J> What about Tibetan Buddhism BTW? They seem like an awfully > J> nice bunch of chaps (and chapesses). > > Yes, them too. When wolves attack their sheep, they coral the wolf > into a quarry and then throw rocks from the surrounding cliffs so > that "no one will know who killed the wolf" > > In Samskar, before the Chinese arrived, there had not been a killing > in over 2000 years, and the last recorded skirmish, over rights to > a water hole, had happened several generations ago. I'm skeptical. One of the many perversions of modern civilization is the fictitious rendering of various peoples, frequently to the point where the fiction is more "real" than the reality. You see it over and over again in history: The Primitive People pull a fast one on Whitey The Junior Anthropologist, playing to all the prejudices of Whitey (who only became Junior Anthropologists to support personal ideologies), and before you know it the charade takes on a life of its own which the Primitive People are compelled to perpetuate. Worse, even when there is substantial evidence to the contrary with some basic scholarship, the facts have a hard time competing with the ideologically pleasing fiction that is already firmly entrenched. And many peoples (e.g. American Indians) develop a profit motive for maintaining and promoting the myth in popular culture. I'm far more inclined to believe that people is people, no matter where you are on the planet. The only time you see any anomalies is when you have a self-selecting sub-population within an otherwise normal population, which is hardly a fair way to look at any major population. -James Rogers jamesr@best.com