From fork-admin@xent.com Sat Sep 7 21:52:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.example.com Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4938B16F1A for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 21:52:23 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Sat, 07 Sep 2002 21:52:23 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g871S7C02024 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 02:28:08 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1F42940A2; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@example.com Received: from isolnetsux.techmonkeys.net (isolnetsux.techmonkeys.net [64.243.46.20]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 31EAE29409E for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16015 invoked by uid 501); 7 Sep 2002 01:26:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Sep 2002 01:26:31 -0000 From: CDale To: Eugen Leitl Cc: bitbitch@magnesium.net, "Adam L. Beberg" , Subject: Re[2]: Selling Wedded Bliss (was Re: Ouch...) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@example.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:26:31 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.5 required=7.0 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.50-cvs X-Spam-Level: On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, CDale wrote: > > > It also depends on what the fad is or what is in style. (: > > DNA's idea of fads is on the 100 kiloyear scale, unfortunately. As long as > current fads don't involve in-vivo rewrite of the genome, homeoboxes > including (now there's a problem for you, homeoboxing the adult), they're > not all that smart an idear. I forgot what we were taking about. (: > > > Actualy our silly antiquated ideas about relationships and love have > > resulted in the bleedings of many upon many a page (and musical > > instrumnet, and canvas) What's the problem if we dash a little Mrs. > > Art is sure nice. However, if art is our first priority we're kinda > fux0red, if we've set our sight on a sustainable culture. Nah, didn't say art's our priority. Said our ideas about relationships and love are. > > And let me tell you this: just because a child happens to be > > single-parented (what a word), does not mean that child is > > dysfunctional or lives in a dysfunctional home. The govt/media/church > > Our firmware is not built to be single-parented. You can counteract that > somewhat by exposing the kid to a community of close friends, but not too > many do that. I see it a lot in the south. Also family. > > > has tried to make it look like there is a disintegration, when in > > fact, there is a coming together of other family members and friends > > to raise children. It's not decaying -- it's changing. Nothing wrong > > with change. > > I don't know what exactly is wrong, but something is definitely wrong. > This is way too important to be left to just our intuition of what is > right and what is wrong. One thing that's wrong is who some of us choose as babysitters. Too many kids are put in front of the television for hours each day, to be influenced by what the media and government thinks is important. I learned a long time ago that what they think is important and what is are two different things. I threw the TV out when Xi was 9. She's got her own place now, and still doesn't have one. YaY! Another thing that's wrong is what goes on in public schools. Some allow a bit of individuality, but only for a class or a short period of time, depending on the teachers, most of the time. I dunno how many times I've seen Xi come home from school absolutely miserable or outraged about something that happened at school. She made it to college, though, whew. It's a big problem to tackle, and I don't know the answer. I like the idea of the voucher system, because in a way it is a way parents can vote more efficiently for how their kids are taught. > > > > At least from the viewpoint of demographics sustainability and > > > counterpressure to gerontocracy and resulting innovatiophobia we're doing > > > something wrong. > > > > > > Maybe we should really go dirty Tleilaxu all the way. > > > > > > > Maybe y'all should buy m-w some more bandwidth. > > m-w? > merriam-webster. (: C -- "I don't take no stocks in mathematics, anyway" --Huckleberry Finn