From fork-admin@xent.com Wed Aug 28 10:50:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC6A44156 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 05:50:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:50:08 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7RLFhZ26129 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:15:43 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7E42940D8; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@example.com Received: from mail.evergo.net (unknown [206.191.151.2]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 94B3729409A for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2729 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2002 21:14:27 -0000 Received: from dsl.206.191.151.102.evergo.net (HELO JMHALL) (206.191.151.102) by mail.evergo.net with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 21:14:27 -0000 Reply-To: From: "John Hall" To: Subject: RE: The Curse of India's Socialism Message-Id: <007001c24e0e$b4e9e010$0200a8c0@JMHALL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <1030396738.2767.162.camel@avalon> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@example.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:14:18 -0700 > From: fork-admin@xent.com [mailto:fork-admin@xent.com] On Behalf Of James > Rogers > Subject: Re: The Curse of India's Socialism > > On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 15:01, Ian Andrew Bell wrote: > > They > > finished their routine with the a quadruple lutz -- laying off > > hundreds of thousands of workers when it all came crashing down. > > So what? Nobody is guaranteed employment. Laying people off is not a > crime nor is it immoral. Companies don't exist to provide employment, > nor should they. The closest we have to such a thing in the US is a > Government Job, and look at the quality THAT breeds. And further, why focus on the fact they were laid off and not on the fact they were hired in the first place? BTW: I saw someone claim that aside from the efficiency of the market there were also gains to society from irrational behavior. If a society has business people that systematically overestimate their chances, that is bad for the businessmen but on net a big gain for society. On the social level, the law of averages works to societies benefit in a manner it can't for an individual. A key reason, in this view, that the US wound up outperforming England was that the English investors were too rational for their societies own good. (Except, of course, when US investors were bilking them to build canals and railroads over here. Thanks, guys.) ===================== Applied to telecom: a lot of dark wire (glass) and innovation will eventually be used for pennies on the dollar, the benefits to society and the costs to the investors.