From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Aug 26 15:30:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A234416A for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 26 Aug 2002 15:25:12 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7NKJVZ06924 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 21:19:32 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FFD2940C5; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@example.com Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1972294099 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 159-98.nyc.dsl.access.net (159-98.nyc.dsl.access.net [166.84.159.98]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7E948AD7; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 16:18:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Lucas Gonze X-X-Sender: lgonze@localhost.localdomain To: Russell Turpin Cc: fork@example.com Subject: Re: The case for spam In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@example.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 16:10:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Pyzor: Reported 0 times. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.7 required=7.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,OPT_IN,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.40-cvs X-Spam-Level: me: > >Spam is *the* tool for dissident news, since the fact that it's unsolicited > >means that recipients can't be blamed for being on a mailing list. > Russell Turpin: > That depends on how the list is collected, or > even on what the senders say about how the list > is collected. Better to just put it on a website, > and that way it can be surfed anonymously. AND > it doesn't clutter my inbox. It doesn't work that way. A website is opt-in, spam is no-opt. If you visit a samizdat site you can get in trouble. If you get samizdat spam, the worst that can be said is that you might have read it. And as long as the mailers send to individuals who clearly didn't opt-in, like party officials, then other recipients can't get in trouble for requesting the mail. Plus, it's much harder to block spam than web sites. But this shouldn't come as a surprize. Spam is speech. It may be sleazy, but so what. - Lucas http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork