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From: "Bill Stoddard" <bill@wstoddard.com>
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To: "Tom" <tomwhore@slack.net>
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Cc: "Owen Byrne" <owen@permafrost.net>,
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"Fork@Xent.Com" <fork@xent.com>
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Subject: RE: Hanson's Sept 11 message in the National Review
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:55:33 -0400
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> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Bill Stoddard wrote:
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> --]How likely are you to change someone's mind by being
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> --]rude and disrespectful to them? Is this how to win friends and
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> influence
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> --]people?
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> Point the first, I doubt if they are trying to change Rumsy's mind but
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> rather to show others that there is a vocal and violent opposition to his
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> views. With such flagrant showings of opposition there would be more
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> coverage of the opposing ideas and thus the spreading of the dissenting
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> meme. A viri need not comply with the wishes of the attacked host, rather
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> the host had better make some antibodies or learn to adapt.
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> Point the second. Historicaly the "in yer face" mode of confrontation has
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> been used to gain popular support and to grow from seeds "grass roots"
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> movements. Witness the big bold "in yer face" signature of Hancock on the
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> "in yer face" Declaration of the american colonies to the governing
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> powers of england. Witness also the chicago seven, Others will follow in
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> examplare form upon digging.
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> Now point the third, is it annoying? Yes, and if your annoyed then the "in
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> yer facers" have done thier job. Sad to say the polite persnikiters are
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> teh very fule the "in yer facers" hope to ignite. If your burning, your
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> being used.
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> Pointed the personal...The politics of the polite are more often the
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> refuge of backstabings, closed mouth recourlessness and hypocritcal
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> behavoirs. Id rather hear what those who oppose me have to say than
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> quietly be knifed by the slow hand of the coward.
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> Seek not the polite or impolite but rather the reasons why.
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> -tom
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Good points all but they don't apply in this case. Someone is speaking and
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a group of selfish bastards only interested in getting their rocks off are
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trying to shout him down (they are doing it because 'it's good for the
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soul'. Kind like Chuckie Manson doing the stuff he did cause 'it was good
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for his soul'). Unprincipled and evil. It's got nothing to do with throwing
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tea in the harbor or the DoI.
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Bill
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