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To: "Owen Byrne" <owen@permafrost.net>
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From: Chuck Murcko <chuck@topsail.org>
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 04:44:22 -0700
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Heh, ten years ago saying the exact same words was most definitely not
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"parroting the party line".
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It was even less so thirty years ago. My story remains the same, take it
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or leave it. I've said the same words to white supremacists as to
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suburban leftist punks as to homeys as to French Irish, etc. etc.:
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I don't have to agree with anything you say. I *am* obligated to defend
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to the death your right to say it. I don't give a rat's ass where you
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say it, even in France. I don't care where the political pendulum has
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swung currently.
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Chuck
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On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, at 10:38 AM, Owen Byrne wrote:
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> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 10:19:13AM -0700, Chuck Murcko wrote:
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>> Probably because we have this pesky 1st Amendment thing here. Still,
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>> lots of us in the States have developed a disturbing tendency to shout
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>> down or (in recent years) shackle in legal BS opinions, thoughts, and
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>> individual behaviors we don't agree with.
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>>
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>
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> Except that parroting the party line doesn't really require much
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> freedom of speech. Now if you had posted something from a left of
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> center source, you would have been shouted down in flames, buried in
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> ad hominem attacks, and probably get your name added to an FBI list.
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>
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>
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> Besides the basic rule in the United States now is "I'll defend your
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> rights to say anything you want, but if it isn't appropriately
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> neoconish, well, don't expect to work":
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>
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>
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> HHS Seeks Science Advice to Match Bush Views
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>
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> By Rick Weiss
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> Washington Post Staff Writer
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> Tuesday, September 17, 2002; Page A01
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>
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> The Bush administration has begun a broad restructuring of the
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> scientific advisory committees that guide federal policy in areas such
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> as patients' rights and public health, eliminating some committees
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> that were coming to conclusions at odds with the president's views and
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> in other cases replacing members with handpicked choices.
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> ...
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> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26554-2002Sep16.html
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>
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> Owen
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>
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