From sentto-2242572-60177-1038816526-jm=jmason.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Dec 2 11:26:06 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4359816F71 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:24:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:24:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.64]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gB287I817861 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:07:18 GMT X-Egroups-Return: sentto-2242572-60177-1038816526-yyyy=spamassassin.taint.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.94] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Dec 2002 08:08:46 -0000 X-Sender: David.McQuirk@drc-gb.org X-Apparently-To: zzzzteana@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 2 Dec 2002 08:08:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 89743 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2002 08:08:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Dec 2002 08:08:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO brain.gsx.gov.uk) (194.6.79.176) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2002 08:08:45 -0000 Received: from mail.drc-gb.org ([51.64.116.65] helo=man-exch2000.drc.local) by brain.gsx.gov.uk with esmtp id 18Ild6-0006mu-00 for forteana@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 08:08:36 +0000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Message-Id: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-Tnef-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [zzzzteana] Fire fighters Thread-Index: AcKYndViozRhsUrMTnmm12rnRLKERgBO0tAw To: From: "David McQuirk" X-Yahoo-Profile: oneoffdave MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list zzzzteana@yahoogroups.com; contact forteana-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list zzzzteana@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:10:41 -0000 Subject: RE: [zzzzteana] Fire fighters Reply-To: zzzzteana@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One of the main strands of this 'modernisation' is to have all stations on a 'retained' basis at night. Basically this means that the fire station will be unmanned and in the event of a fire, the fire-fighters will be summonsed by pagers, the same way that they currently are in a lot of rural regions. The main reason for this is that fewer fires occur at night. However, the majority of fatalities in fires do occur at night and the recent deaths during the fire-fighters' strike all occurred at night. Over half of these happened in areas currently covered by retained crews who aren't on strike and would appear to give a grim foreshadowing of what may be to come. Currently one of the conditions for being in a retained crew is that you must live/work within one mile of the station. How they will apply this to whole time fire-fighters is still unclear. A good friend of mine is a station officer in Hampshire and currently lives 20 miles from his station so how he'll respond to fire calls at night is a mystery. And I can't see many fire-fighters living within a mile of some of the inner London stations. Dave To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: forteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/