From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 30 17:56:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D272116F16 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:53:57 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:53:57 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8UESFK02460 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 15:28:17 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E268B2940C6; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from sunserver.permafrost.net (u172n16.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.172.16]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA87429409E for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.123.179] (helo=permafrost.net) by sunserver.permafrost.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17w1Nl-0007yE-00; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:18:45 -0300 Message-Id: <3D986033.2060903@permafrost.net> From: Owen Byrne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gbolcer@endeavors.com Cc: Fork@xent.com Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the First Amendment (fwd) References: <3D9859B9.3A7F80C2@endeavors.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:31:15 -0300 Gregory Alan Bolcer wrote: >at zones to most expediently keep order. > >The problem is that politics have gotten so muddied >nowadays, that shouting down and unpeaceably disrupting >political rallies that you don't agree with has become >common practice. The courts have constantly ruled >that there are some restrictions on the first amendment. >They teach you that your very first year of law school. > > What a load of crap. Politics are somehow more muddy now? I'd say that its considerably clearer - the vast majority of people feel disenfranchised, and the common practice of putting protestors in boxes is done usually to hide them from TV cameras, visiting dignitaries, etc, further exacerbating those feelings. "Unpeaceably disrupting political rallies" is now usually done by police with riot gear and pepper spray. We had a good one here a month or so ago - a few people peaceably strayed from the permit area, which was nearly a mile from the site of the meeting of finance ministers held here (the motorcade drove by it for about 10 seconds), and were immediately gassed, beaten and arrested. Not very muddied at all. Owen