From fork-admin@xent.com Fri Sep 27 10:43:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4A616F03 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:42:50 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:42:50 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8QNc9g14610 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 00:38:10 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F011A2940CF; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from mail.evergo.net (unknown [206.191.151.2]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A5AE29409A for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26554 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 23:37:32 -0000 Received: from dsl.206.191.151.102.evergo.net (HELO JMHALL) (206.191.151.102) by mail.evergo.net with SMTP; 26 Sep 2002 23:37:32 -0000 Reply-To: From: "John Hall" To: "FoRK" Subject: RE: Liberalism in America Message-Id: <003b01c265b5$af603900$0200a8c0@JMHALL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:37:27 -0700 In essence, hindsight justification. The progressives weren't in the middle, they were in a society at one end and they wanted a society at the other end. The middle is more or less where they got stopped. As to an intervention that worked, I actually have some nice things to say about the SEC, at least in theory. I have a few nasty things to say as well, but on the whole it has been a very good thing. > -----Original Message----- > From: fork-admin@xent.com [mailto:fork-admin@xent.com] On Behalf Of Geege > Schuman > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:37 PM > To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org > Subject: Liberalism in America > > liberalism > propagandized as meddling > in truth, the middle > > "American liberalism believes that in this respect it has made a major > contribution to the grand strategy of freedom. Where both capitalists and > socialists in the 1930's were trying to narrow the choice to either/or -- > either laissez-faire capitalism or bureaucratic socialism -- the New Deal > persisted in its vigorous faith that human intelligence and social > experiment could work out a stable foundation for freedom in a context of > security and for security in a context of freedom. That faith remains the > best hope of free society today." > > fluid yet crunchy, > gg > > > > > http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/50s/schleslib.html