From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 9 19:27:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B7316F03 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:27:26 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:27:26 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g89DuPC17836 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:56:27 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2FD2940A5; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 06:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9296229409C for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 06:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h00e098788e1f.ne.client2.attbi.com ([24.61.143.15]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020909135531.IXCR14182.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@h00e098788e1f.ne.client2.attbi.com>; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:55:31 +0000 From: bitbitch@magnesium.net X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52f) Educational Reply-To: bitbitch@magnesium.net X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: <19271172739.20020909095555@magnesium.net> To: eugen Leitl Cc: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re[3]: Selling Wedded Bliss (was Re: Ouch...) In-Reply-To: <10770315074.20020909094137@magnesium.net> References: <10770315074.20020909094137@magnesium.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:55:55 -0400 In addition, one bit of anecdotal evidence from a conversation in 1984! in San Fransisco is hardly enough to extrapolate 500 to 3k. This is the only quote I could find relating to promiscuity in homosexual men. "I think people feel a certain invulnerability, especially young people, like this disease doesn't affect me. The publicity about the disease was very much the kind where it was easy to say, "That isn't me. I'm not promiscuous." Promiscuity, especially, was a piece where people could easily say, "Well, I'm not. Promiscuous is more than I do." If you have 300 partners a year, you can think you're not promiscuous if you know somebody who has 500. So it's all relative, and it was easy to feel that that isn't me." You could find hets who have the same kind of partner volume. BFD. This kind of random generation of numbers that leads the nutty religious bigots (as you mentioned earlier). Grr. Bits damnit. Now, I must go brief. -BB EL>> On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, CDale wrote: >>> I agree w/ ya Tom. That kind of thinking is SO idiotic. Sure, gays EL>> So how many of your hetero friends had >3 k lovers? bmn> So Eugen, how many of your homo friends have -had- 3k lovers? bmn> In fact, thats a general question for FoRK proper. bmn> Do you know anyone, outside of meybee Wilt Chamberlin and a few of the bmn> gang-bang porn queens who -have- had even 1.5k lovers? bmn> Eegads, if you're hypothesizing numbers like -that- Eugen, you at bmn> least owe it to FoRK to back that shit up. bmn> Otherwise we're liable to assume rampant unfounded homophobia and that bmn> would just be a lose. bmn> Just a quick assumption here. I'm not a math geek or anything, but bmn> assuming 1 lover every day, that would be like at least one lover bmn> everyday for 8 years and some change. I don't know about you, but bmn> very very few of us are -that- lucky (or even close to that lucky) bmn> and after awhile, even the sexaholics get bored and have to mingle bmn> something new into their weekends. You really are assumiing that the bmn> homosexual population is a) that large in a given area (The meccas bmn> might qualify, but try finding that kind of homosexual population in bmn> say, Tulsa, Oklahoma or Manchester, NH (Tho Manchester does have quite bmn> a few nifty gaybars, but thats a different story) b) that bored/sex bmn> obsessed/recreationally free to pursue sex that often, with that many bmn> partners or that they'd even WANT that many partners. bmn> Qualify yourself, or at least lower your outrageous numbers. bmn> =BB >>> are promiscuous, and so are hets, but I betcha gays are more >>> AIDSphobic than hets, generally speaking.... EL>> The virus load issue is orthogonal to the fact. Bzzt. Switch on your EL>> brain, you both. I was mentioning that a subpopulation outside of the sex EL>> industry is/used to be extremely promiscuous, about two orders of EL>> magnitude higher than average. -- Best regards, bitbitch mailto:bitbitch@magnesium.net