From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 2 23:01:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86A516F23 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 23:01:07 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Sep 2002 23:01:07 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g82GXqZ09955 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 17:33:53 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751382940A6; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 09:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from mojo-jojo.ebuilt.net (mojo-jojo.ebuilt.net [209.216.43.10]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B7F2294099 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 09:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23019 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2002 16:32:40 -0000 Received: from nat.ebuilt.com (HELO thedudebvi1wob) (209.216.46.200) by mojo-jojo.ebuilt.net with SMTP; 2 Sep 2002 16:32:40 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Reza B'Far (eBuilt)" To: "Adam L. Beberg" , "Mr. FoRK" Cc: Subject: RE: Java is for kiddies Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 09:30:22 -0700 With the increasing prevalence of web services (not that they are always a good thing), I doubt that parsing XML will be something that will remain at the Java application layer for long... Recent threads here on Fork indicating the move towards hardware parsing or this code even become part of the native implementation of Java on various platforms... Reza B'Far -----Original Message----- From: fork-admin@xent.com [mailto:fork-admin@xent.com]On Behalf Of Adam L. Beberg Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 9:01 PM To: Mr. FoRK Cc: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Java is for kiddies On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Mr. FoRK wrote: > > 6. Hardware is getting so fast that I'm not sure if the performance > > difference between Java and C/C++ are relevant any more. > > When out-of-the-box parsing & transform of XML in java is 25x slower than > C++ on the same hardware then it does matter. Yea, and that on top of the 100x of all the parsing engines over just bigendian'ing it and passing the data (5x+++) in the raw. Then it REALLY matters. - Adam L. "Duncan" Beberg http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/ beberg@mithral.com